TIAHUANACO: the oldest city of the world.

update 24/08/2004

the text of this page is a copy of the book of Robert Charroux, the book of its books, at Robert Laffont, page 119

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"One day will come where one will be able to say traditional civilizations
Pharaons, of Chaldéens, Brahames:
you are catalogued in our books as being oldest,
but science proves that pre-incaïque civilization
of Tiahuanaco is several thousands of years former to yours "
Weiner, 1876.

It is by door of sun that one penetrates of appartment in the ignored world of Tiahuanaco, which proclaims its antique splendour in Bolivia, to 4000 m of altitude. One day of May 1958, a French coming from Paz discovered, on a sandy plate, a city in ruin: Tiahuanaco. This French, the journalist Roger Delorme, knew the INCA history and the traditions of the Andean valleys. He had visited Cuzco, Pachacamac, Ollantaytambo, and had admired colossal giant stone constructions of which some weigh several tons. The old cities incas, Machu Pichu in particular, had strongly impressed it by a majestic harmony in spite of their gigantism. But in Tiahuanaco, in front of the scattered stones and statues on kilometers, in front of this Door of the Sun engraved like a bracelet Moor, it felt an indefinable influence exceeding all the emotions felt on the high spot of Peru.
In Tiahuanaco, the desert was inhabited by an extraordinary secrecy that the spirit did not manage to identify. Roger Delorme remained several weeks on the Bolivian plate, subjugated by the Door of the Sun, questioning the monolith broken in his medium (according to the tradition by a thrown stone of the sky), questioning the natives, trying to give a logical and scientific direction to the parabolas, the images and the petroglyphs.
Around, on the plate, of the monolithic sandstone characters, with large ears, with hands with four fingers, contemplated of their glance empties the man of the XXème century which tried to include/understand their message.


The origin of Tiahuanaco is lost in the millenia. Incas, at the time of the conquest of Peru by Fernand Pizarre, claimed that they had never known Tiahuanaco differently than in ruin. Aymaras, the most former people of the Andes, said that the city was that of the first men of the Earth and that it had been created by Viracocha God before even the birth of the sun and stars.

 

The enigmatic Renovating one of the Religion of the INCA Sun; Mr. Beltran Garcia, Spanish biologist and direct descendant of Garcilaso of Vega, the large historian of the Conquest; held of its grandfather of the new documents relating to the Andean traditions. The Door of the Sun, in itself, was only one incomplete testimony. The Andean traditions, in themselves, were only one plot. The whole, juxtaposed, made succeed interpretations mythologies and traditions American, Egyptian, Greek and even babyloniennes, a finally acceptable explanation.


The history, which stopped with the last pharaonic dynasties, had just made a jump in the past and was prolonged now until the tenth millenium before our era, if not further.
Here what the secret documents of Garcilaso of Vega revealed, translated and commented by Mr. Beltran:

TRANSLATION LITTERALE:

The pictographic writings of Tiahuanaco say that in the era of the giant tapirs, the very advanced human beings and a blood different from ours, highest found with their suitability the lake of the Earth (Titicaca). During their space flight, the pilots launched their excrements without landing and gave to the lake the shape of a human being lying on the back. They did not forget the navel, place where our first Mother would be posed, in charge of the insemination of the human intelligence. This legend, yesterday, would have made us smile. Today our frogmen artificially copy the webbed fingers of the colonists of Tiahuanaco. Andean natives live at altitudes where the White could not be acclimatized, which is the proof that it can exist another blood. In their powerful telescopes, the sidereal visitors thus sought an altitude and a lake favorable at their organization and their life amphibian. It should be noted that to ruin the tradition and to discredit the lake in the spirit of Andean, the geographical charts represented it until 1912 with an almost round form. With the name lake legitimates: Titi (lake of the mystery and the sun), one added the suffix excrement which, in much of languages, means excrement.

Thus, the documents of the descendant of Garcilaso of Vega made state of extraterrestrial Eve of origin and interplanetary machines. They gave also astonishing precise details:

At the tertiary era (approximately 5 million years ago), whereas no one human being did not exist yet on our only populated planet of fantastic animals, an aircraft shining like gold landed on the island of the Sun of the lake Titicaca. From this aircraft a woman went down resembling to the current women for all the body from the feet until the centres; but it had the head in the shape of cone, large ears and the webbed hands with four fingers. Its name was "Orejona" (large ears) and it came from the Venus planet where the atmosphere is about similar to that of the Earth. Its webbed hands indicated that water existed in abundance on its original planet and played a paramount part in the life of the Venusian ones. Orejona like us, it with intelligence and undoubtedly intended was endowed went vertically to create a terrestrial humanity, because she had relations with one to tapir, grognant animal going to four legs. She generated several children. This offspring born of a monstrous crossing was born with two udders, a reduced intelligence, but the reproductive bodies remained those of the tapir-pig. The race was fixed. One day, its mission accomplished, or perhaps Earth wearies, and eager to return on Venus where it could have a companion with his image, Orejona took again its flight in the spacecraft. His/her children thereafter, procreated, especially dedicating themselves to the destiny of their father to tapir, but in the area of Titicaca a remained tribe faithful to the memory of Orejona developed its intelligence, preserved its religious rites and was the starting point of pre-incaïques civilizations. Here what is written on the pediment of the Door of the Sun with Tiahuanaco.

photos of Andes

 

Of course, it is necessary to know to make the share of the things, however the unit leaves reflect. The most disconcerting enigma nevertheless remains that of the construction of this strange city lost with the c?ur of the deserted high plateau. No career, no rock are visible in the vicinity. Which is the origin of materials used for the construction of the city during the imperial phase? By which clever means, while implementing which energies these stones monumental they were transported here?
Is the time completed where a Spanish Jesuit reported in his chronicle the magic action according to which "the large stones which one sees in Tiahuanaco were transported in the airs with the sound of a trumpet" (ultrasounds?) whose a gifted being of at the very least exceptional gifts played.... The petrographic examination of materials made it possible to find the careers corresponding to 100 and even 300 kilometers from there. What obliges to admit that monoliths of which some weigh more than 100 tons were transferred onto considerable distances through generally broken grounds. Let us recall that the mysterious builders did not have draught animals, and neither the wheel nor iron knew.
Will one never know why the city, whose certain buildings seem unfinished, was abandoned for always?
The giant divinities who always take care on it lost the voice... But the word remains, of course, with the archaeologists...

Page written by Khephren( starting from the book of R. Charroux, N.D.L.R. Fileane.com ) and put on page of Indra


The city of Tiahuanaco poses in my opinion an interesting problem.

Indeed the presence of very wide quays leaves has to think that the city was a port of the lake Titicaca. However Tiahuanaco is currently located at approximately 18 kilometers in the south of the lake, like with more than 30 meters above the current level the lake.

We know that the lake Titicaca, is the plate of Altiplano on which it is located, have, since always, moved much. Indeed the old northern bank of the lake is visible with 88 meters higher than its current level, whereas 60 kilometers more in the south, the same bank is located 82 meters lower.

It is this movement of Altiplano which allowed professors Ponansky and Müller to affirm that Tiahuanaco was not built into -500, as affirms it the orthodoxe chronology, but in -15000, and that it would have undergone the anger of a natural disaster eleven millenia before our era.

Then, Tiahuanaco, the oldest city of the world?

THE TWO COLONIES TELAMONES 

who developed after the last great cataclysm

The origin of the relations between the European continent and the American continent goes up at times former to the last great cataclysm, with the last swing of the ground on its axis, when the age of Atlantis radiated on ground. After this last great cataclysm, the surviving people preserved the memory of this knowledge whereas they were to live under strongly deteriorated conditions and an economic and cultural misery. A trace of these vestiges of Atlantis preserved piously by the scientists and large main spiritual of the ancient people, is delivered to us in a manuscript of Henry Schliemann published by his grandson Paul Schliemann :

"in 1873, during my excavations in the ruins of Troy with Hissarlik, when I put at the day, in the second layer, Trésor of Priam celebrates it, I discovered under this treasure a bronze vase of a particular form.

This vase contained some clay shards, various small objects out of metal, of the currencies and the petrified objects, in bone. Several of these objects and the vase of bronze carried an inscription in hiéroglyphes phenicians. The inscription was: Of king Chronos of Atlantis."

A marked document of the letter B said:

"in 1883, I live with the museum of the Louvre a collection of objects coming from excavations carried out in Tiahuanaku in the Central America (it acts of Tiahuanaco in Bolivia, n.d.l.r.). I noticed there shards of potteries exactly of the same invoice and same matter, and also of the objects in petrified bones absolutely similar to those which I had found in the bronze vase of the Treasury of Priam.

The resemblance of these two series of objects could not be implied randomly. The vases of the Central America did not comprise a writing phenician nor other inscriptions. I hastened to examine my personal specimens again and I was convinced that the inscriptions traced by a foreign hand were more recent than the objects themselves.

To me being gotten some fragments coming from Tiahuanaku, I them subjected to a chemical and microscopic examination. This examination establishes incontestably that the two series of potteries, as well those of Central America as those of Troy, were same particular kind of clay which is neither in old Phénicie nor in the Central America.

The analysis of the objects establishes that metal was composed of platinum, aluminium and copper, alloy which is not nowhere elsewhere among the vestiges of passed and which is currently unknown. I thus managed to conclude that these objects coming from two regions so distant one from the other were made same substance and undoubtedly had the same origin. But the objects themselves are neither phenicians, neither mycéniens, nor American. What is necessary to think about it?

What formerly of the same point of origin, did they arrive at the two different places where one found them? The inscription raised on my objects revealed this point of origin: Atlantis.

This extraordinary discovered encouraged me to continue my research with a new energy ".

We know today that other vestiges telamones were discovered in Tripolitaine and are identical to those of Tiahuanaco and Troy. The traces of coke discovered in 1992 in Egyptian mummies also show that the road between the two surviving colonies telamones of the last great cataclysm always remained opened, forwarding by Asia and the road of the oases, using the straits between the continents rather than the great maritime crossings. This knowledge kept in the double house of life of the temple of Dendérah was continued by the monks coptes, Syrians, Irish Christians or Benedictines. The history of these European forwardings towards the American colony telamon is known.

bonds between European and Amerindian civilizations: 

3 waves of European establishments in Americas

 

1) of 4th at the 12th century: the first arrival of the Irish monks pertaining to the order columbite of the culdees. These monks developed the Christian knowledge brought by Syrian monks and coptes and they did not accept the supervision of the church of Rome. To escape from the government from the church from Rome, they took refuge always more in north and in Iceland because they preferred to flee the world. The monks bore the name of "dad". In year 877, for fuire the presence of the Vikings in Iceland, around fifty of monks and oblats took the sea and one intended some never again to speak.

In 963, the Viking Ari Marsson was thrown by the storm on an unknown coast, that of the "Huitramannaland" or "ground of the white men", in the west of Vinland. Ari was retained over there and baptized. In 1007, Thorsfinn Karlsefni made captive, in Vinland, two Indians who, later, in Greenland, after having learned the norrois, told him that in the north of their country, lived men vêtus of white who, certain days, with great pieces of fabric attached to poles, left in procession "while speaking very extremely". In 1029, during a voyage from Dublin in Iceland, the Viking Gudhleif Gudlangsson was off-set towards south-west by a violent storm and was drossé on an unknown coast where it was made prisoner by men who spoke Irish. He had the life saves thanks to the intervention of an old man who arrived at horse and addressed the word in norrois to him. It was Bjorn Asbrandsson, the hero of Breidavik, exiled in year 999, after an adventure in love which had badly finished. This area of Huitramannaland corresponds to Acadie, Gaspésie and the Scotland News in current Canada.

The monks columbites were sailors as much as monks. Very quickly starting from their new monasteries, they sailed towards the south and Mexico. We know by the indigenous traditions that the first arrival of the White in average America was that of monk vêtus of long white dresses, that one called "dad". Their influence was extraordinnaire, since they arrived, not only to preach a Christianity whose memory had still not been erased five hundred years later, but still to transform manners of the Indians. However their presence had to be short bus they did not found families.

2) in year 967, the Viking Ullman Jarl touched ground with Panuco, in the Gulf of Mexico. It is the second arrival, the "last arrival" of the white men for the Mayas. Ullman unloads of 7 ships, with some 700 Vikings, men and women, originating in Schleswig and forming part of the Danish possessions of Great Britain, it gained Anahuac where he became the fifth king of Toltèques, warlike Quetzalcoatl. At the end of twenty years, it left a colony in Mexico, unloaded on the coasts of current Venezuela, crossed South America to the Pacific. The Vikings founded the kingdom of Quito then went up on the high-plate. Of their capital, Tiahuanacu, to the accesses of the lake Titicaca, they launched out to the conquest of the sub-continent as from the years 1000. Their empire extended soon from Bogota, in current Colombia, in Valparaiso, in Chile, with two exits on the Atlantic: the Amazon, in north, and Peaviru, in the south, the "marrowy way" which, by the sierra of the Money, gained Paraguay and the ocean. They were some forty thousand when, about 1290, Araucans, come from Chile, seized Tiahuanacu. Some of the survivors of the massacre which followed went up the coast as far as Ecuador where they embarked towards Polynesia on balsa rafts. Others took refuge in the Amazonian and Paraguayan forest, where we found their descendants. Others still remade their forces in Apurimac, to Peru itself, and, some ten years later, about 1300, went down on Cuzco where they founded the new empire, that of Incas, i.e., in norrois, of the Descendants.

3) then the templiers came about 1250, 1294 and in 1307 a last group arrived. They helped the descendants of the Vikings to found the INCA empire then took part in its development. In 40 years, of 1272 to 1307, they had made trade with the Vikings, mainly to bring back the money to the port of the Small rock and with this noble metal become a new currency, to finance constructions of their movement: abbeys, houses templières and especially the cathedrals once that their treasure seizes in the Middle East and who came from the use of gold since civilization of high Egypt, had been consumed in the real building sites and the acquisition of grounds and fields. The templiers brought the art of the construction of the stone to the Vikings.

For example, the opening of the known monolithic door under the name of Door of the Sun, which one found, lying and broken, in the enclosure of Kalasasaya, Christian and principal church building of Tiahanaco and which was not completed in 1290 at the time of the catch of the city by Araucans de Kari. This Door of the Sun constituted one of the entries of the enclosure of the church. It is decorated of a plank which reproduces, always in the style of Tiahanaco, the Worship of the Lamb, such as one sees it with the tympanum of the cathedral of Amiens. The central reason answers in its least details the apocalyptic description of the Lamb. The forty-eight figures of the three higher lines represent, with their respective attributes, the twelve minor apostles, the twelve prophets and the twenty-four old men carrying zithers and gold cut, such as described Saint Jean. On the lower line, one sees two angels playing of the trumpet, instrument unknown in America précolombienne. Amiens is located in Picardy, at the border of Normandy and Dieppe is its port and outlet on the sea to some 100 km. The cathedral of Amiens was built between 1220 and 1288 and its gate between 1225 and 1236. The indigenous chronicles speak to us about a catholic monk who about 1250, had appeared on the high-plate after having unloaded in the gulf of Santos and having crossed Paraguay, it named the Gnupa father. It brought the plans of a Romance church, easier to build using the highly qualified indigenous masons who before had built the many buildings in ruin or which disappeared.

We can deduce from these events that about 1150, the main Vikings of the area of Titicaca, once conquered their empire and ensured, thanks to their alliance with Guaranis, their routes transportation to the Atlantic, renewed contact with Europe, undoubtedly in Dieppe, a few kilometers of the port templier of Saint-Valery-in-caux. They were combined to the templiers in the secrecy and thanks to the craftsmen of the Temple, from large buildings emerged, in Tiahuanaco and elsewhere, to replace the huts of cob and stones dry Vikings. The templiers also gave a new dash to the local metallurgy: with the Asian goldsmithery of origin that the natives of the Peruvian coast knew already were added more complex processes, like the casting with lost wax, and the work of iron. Mines were opened, in particular money and the ships of the Order of the Temple left for La Rochelle charged with money ingots. About 1250, monks christianized the area of Tiahuanaco. After 1307, the adventure ended, Peru in full anarchy did not constitute for the brothers escaped templiers of Europe, a satisfactory refuge, they preferred Mexico to him.

extracted the book: Templiers in America of Jacques de Maheu, enigmas of the universe, Robert Laffont, 1981

our comments:

- on the first arrival of the Irish monks in Acadie : these events must be connected to the development of the Iroquois people in the area of the St. Lawrence and the Large Lakes: about 1000 to 1300, Iroquois gather in distinct tribes and strengthen their villages. From 1140 to 1390: approximate date of the Confederation of the Five Nations: birth of the Great Law which Binds and of the Haudenosaunee people, first confederal organization which will be used as a basis for the constitution of the United States very inspired of the Great Law which binds and which Benjamin Franklin supported. The principles brought by the monks heirs to the organization of the people of High-Egypt and Greece, could find on this new continent a ground more fertile than that of Europe blocked by the conflicts permanent between the systems of capacities of papacy and the kings. Saved by the conquistadores and searches it gold and money, the people haudenosaunee, shows the survival of an organization in network of which the roots come from the same monastic movement and the same origin related to the temple from Dendérah guard from the divine Laws and the celestial mathematics transmitted by the survivors from Atlantis after the last great cataclysm.

- on the Door of the Sun of Tiahuanaco: engravings of the templiers can be superimposed on those older of the first founders of the city, practical current.

     Tiahuanaco and the inversion of the magnetic poles of the Earth

 

According to the legend, the individuals come from another planet have to start by living under ground to protect itself from the rays of the sun. Tiahuanaco is in the beginning an underground city.

Then these high plateaus where the life could find refuge, the descendants of the survivors left founded the people Atlantis in the high mountains of this continent. At the time of the last great cataclysm, Atlantis was absorbed under the ocean and the survivors accosted on the coasts of Morocco. They crossed the current Sahara which was not yet a desert to take refuge in the mountains of the Himalayas.Three thousand years later, when the ground became again livable, they went down in the plains to be particularly established along the Nile and founded the Egyptian civilization. People had not been destroyed by the last great cataclysm, in particular in India and at the bottom of the Himalayas. Other colonies of survivors descended from the Himalayas founded cities: Troy, Greek cities and later even Rome. The knowledge preserved in the oldest temple of Egypt at Dendérah says that the swing of the axis of the ground occurs in a cyclic way, in theory every 26,000 years and that the phenomenon release is the retrocession of the ground around the sun which slows down the race of the ground and makes that our planet accumulates a force of which it must be released through this swing which enables him to find a new center of gravitation. This swing is always preceded by natural disasters more and more devastators. The sun intervenes largely in this process of destruction of the life on ground because also rocks on its axis and the solar eruptions are then very powerful.

The scientific discoveries on the magnetic disturbances of the ground and the inversion of the magnetic poles come to confirm and specify these legends of the Andes and Egypt. Tiahuanaco and its underground origin, its altitude and the proximity of a big lake, correspond to this refuge for living beings. It is probable that the swing of the axis of the sun, that of the ground had other consequences on close planets, in particular Venus which came to find an orbit close to the sun which makes the life much more difficult than before on this planet. Tiahuanaco, according to the legend was built by individuals coming from Come at the time of a catastrophe which made the life impossible on this planet.

documents

The Russian scientists estimate that in the event of change of the magnetic field, the protection of the Earth against radiations will start to weaken: “initially, of the jolts will occur in the operation of the significant systems, starting with the mobile phones. The satellites will break down. But, before that, it will be necessary to put an end to the manned space flights. Then, the space and solar radiations will act on the genome of the organizations which live on the Earth: some will die, others will undergo many changes. Taking into account the solar eruptions which are accompanied by powerful floods of charged particles, it is probable that, well before the total disappearance of the magnetic field, any life on Earth became impossible”.

http://www.notre-planete.info/actualites/actu_1754_champ_magnetique_terrestre_inversion_poles.php

During this transition, the intensity of the magnetic field is very low and the surface of planet can be exposed with radiations. Many technologies using the magnetic field could also be affected.

The magnetic north pole of the Earth moved north of Canada towards Siberia (of 1,100 km) with a currently increasing speed. In 1970 it moved of 10 km a year, against 40 km in 200338et since then made only accélérer54. In the last decade, the magnetic north moved approximately degree all the five years.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inversion_du_champ_magn%C3%A9tique_terrestre

In 2010, two French scientists of the KNOWLEDGE noticed that the disappearance of the Man of Néandertal had occurred during the excursion of Laschamp. The recent techniques of dating make it possible to locate this extinction between 41 and 34,000 years. They think that the weakening of the magnetic shield allows the protons emitted by the sun to penetrate more in-depth in the layers of the atmosphere where they then generate chemical reactions cascades about it which lead in particular to the nitric oxide formation, substance which destroys the ozone layer. The Neanderthal men thus had to face an increase in the production of UV-B for one long period with important peaks at the time of the solar eruptions. One could study these effects in South America because of the magnetic Anomaly of the South Atlantic

 

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